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Robb Kruger - This is my kinda place.
Board Administrator
Username: Robb318
MN
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 1903
| | Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 8:15 pm: | 
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Just archiving this one off for a while. |
Alan Nadeau
Member
Username: Alan
VT
Registered: 1-2006
Post Number: 245
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 9:53 am: |
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I've got some excess "stuff" that I'm looking to sell off. If I go through that auction site it's going to cost me, both to list it and a part of the sale price.
With that in mind, and knowing that this site doesn't run for free and money is usually tight for those hosting these sites, I'm proposing a voluntary, 5% commission, be paid on sales made through this site. It's easy enough to do, the site already has a Paypal setup in place.
Anything I sell will see 5% donated to WFM. Opinions please. I will also throw out the challenge for others to do likewise. Possibly a cap on maximum commissions as there are some high dollar items going through here occasionally. |
Jim Quarles
Member
Username: Jq730d
MO
Registered: 6-2005
Post Number: 795
| | Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 7:45 am: |
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Money makes things work... Sounds like a good idea to me. |
Craig Barrett
Member
Username: John_deere_kid
PA
Registered: 8-2005
Post Number: 1101
| | Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 9:21 am: |
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I think its a great idea. But I have never worked with paypal, and dont have the stuff to do it from what I am told. |
Dan Maynard
Member
Username: Dmaynard1
IA
Registered: 3-2002
Post Number: 116
| | Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 8:08 pm: |
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I agree with Craig. As the kids say "PayPal Sucks". |
Alan Nadeau
Member
Username: Alan
VT
Registered: 1-2006
Post Number: 252
| | Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 8:26 pm: |
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I'll bet the guys here would take a check. Just my opinion, of course, but it seems that a poor excuse is better than none at all. 
Kinda reminds me of a story I once heard. Seems this couple were celebrating their 50th anniversary and had their two sons over for the evening. Neither one of the boys so much as brought a card. As the evening was drawing to a close Dad took the sons aside and confided in them. "Boys, I want you to know something that your Mother and I have kept secret. We were never actually married, we just chose a date and used that for our anniversary so nobody would think anything funny".
At which point one of the boys asked, "Dad, are you telling us we're bastards?"
To which the father replied, "Yes, and cheap ones too!" |
Craig Barrett
Member
Username: John_deere_kid
PA
Registered: 8-2005
Post Number: 1105
| | Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 8:34 pm: |
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Dont got checking either. Im only 15 and all I got is cash. Not much though. I have learned the hard way not to send cash in the mail. Will you guys here accept postal money orders? and who do I write it out to? |
Alan Nadeau
Member
Username: Alan
VT
Registered: 1-2006
Post Number: 253
| | Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 8:23 am: |
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I proposed the idea, if it's not right for anyone for whatever reason, that's fine too. I figured it was a good way to do two things, help finance the site and say thanks for providing it. If your own circumstances make it difficult that's for you to determine. Myself, I feel it's only right to do a little something in return for the advertising privileges. |
Jim Dimmerling
Member
Username: Jdodad1
Ohio
Registered: 11-2003
Post Number: 577
| | Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 7:02 pm: |
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I will not, until WFM sponsors a PLOW DAY!
But I think some are starting to take advantage of the free want adds!
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Charlie Proctor
Member
Username: Digger
Mn.
Registered: 1-2003
Post Number: 136
| | Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 8:51 pm: |
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Jim D,
WFM sponsors 2 Plow days a year, what else do ya want'um to do?
It is a joint type venture between ihcubcadet.com and WFM so to speak, but it's still a sponsorship.
Check it out, http://plowday.net/
They also do the registration for both PD's.
(Message edited by Digger on October 15, 2006) |
Jim Dimmerling
Member
Username: Jdodad1
Ohio
Registered: 11-2003
Post Number: 581
| | Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 9:38 pm: |
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Charlie,
Not as long as it is held on property owned/rented by cub cadet guys, and all the signs read Cub Cadet Plow Day!
I'll be looking for some WFM (read that green) signs at PD12! |
GRP - "North Coast Herd"
Member
Username: Afponiky
Oh
Registered: 9-2004
Post Number: 968
| | Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 9:51 pm: |
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Jim, I back you all the way on this one!!!!
Gary (GRP) |
Tom
Member
Username: Minisub
OH
Registered: 12-2004
Post Number: 171
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 6:50 am: |
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Alan, I had planned to sell off something last year and send a donation to the site. Ended up keeping the item, so I didn't do it, but think it is a great idea.
Another site I am on requires 25 posts and 1 month of membership to use the classifieds. Keeps a lot of "one post wonders" from using the site solely for commercial gain. I would not object to a similar set-up here. |
Charlie Proctor
Member
Username: Digger
Mn.
Registered: 1-2003
Post Number: 137
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 7:24 am: |
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I do have to admit that I had a TON of fun here,
Weekend Freedom Machines Spring Break!!!
April 26, 2003
Menomonie, WI
Robb says you supply the ground, he'll supply the rolls or at least mini donuts!
Ya know guys, there is a way to solve this problem.
Some one with green blood has got to step up and say, Here I am, come plow with me! It's as simple as that and I promise you that the gesture would be more than welcomed by everyone.
There's ONE reason that Steve B. & Travis keep having the events.
NO ONE ELSE WILL!
I'm gonna get flamed over this and it's not aimed at anyone that's posted and not meant to be smart a$$ed either.
Put up or shut up is the statement that comes to mind, LOL
So lets do some green dirt, I'm sure everyone else is ready
A good example. I've got a 80 acre field 20 feet from a paved parking lot, right across the street from an eatin place and within 2 blocks of a super nice brand new motel and 3 blocks from a Kwik Trip that's just itchin to get plowed, BUT, no one wants to come this far north AGAIN! |
Robb Kruger - This is my kinda place.
Board Administrator
Username: Robb318
MN
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 1875
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 8:05 am: |
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I am going to stop this one right here.
WFM hosted three Spring Breaks. Menomonie in 2002 and 2003, and Grand Meadow MN in 2004. It is a hell of a lot of work. Mike and I don't own any ground, so we had to beg for that, and then try to set up the food, parking, plowing lanes etc on someone else's ground.
Jim, how would you like it if I showed up at your place and said "Now, you can plow... but this is my event."
Mike and I did it the best we could, and I think many will tell you that they were great events...
But the bottom line is, WFM (Mike and I and a cast of other characters) run the best •••• John Deere Garden Tractor website and that is what we do. We have always promoted or sponsored other plow days, and we use money that comes from sponsors and donators to provide door prizes and food for the events.
But Mike and I are in the website business, not the plow day business. And to get back to how this thread started... It takes money to do that as well. Mike is looking at making substantial changes to the architecture of the site, and I am looking to do a major refresh to the Model Info area and add even more historical content... and you boys continue to download more than a gig of data from the site every month.
Give to the site because you find it worthwhile. Because you want to see it continue without pop up ads and the like. Or don't donate. It is called free will. Here is a PayPal link. If you don't use paypal, drop me a note at Robb318@weekendfreedommachines.org
Thank you for your support. |
Jim Dimmerling
Member
Username: Jdodad1
Ohio
Registered: 11-2003
Post Number: 587
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 9:28 am: |
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Test.... |
Jim Dimmerling
Member
Username: Jdodad1
Ohio
Registered: 11-2003
Post Number: 588
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 9:39 am: |
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Ok, so we aren't cut off????
Robb,
Thank you for coming out on this topic. I want to support this sight in other ways besides sendin money!! It is the best sight on the web as far as I am concerned.
You and Mike rarely post, but when you do it's worth while! Not like I see across the street where one person makes every other post!
If I had the type of ground needed then I would welcome WFM sponsorship of a Plow Day. |
Maxwell Wheeler (Home of the Hot Rod 210)
Member
Username: Deerepower235
NC
Registered: 2-2003
Post Number: 634
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 10:06 am: |
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In my opinion, when money starts getting discussed people get offended in a hurry.
I was a member of another tractor site (not green or yellow) when it was free and then they decided to incorporate, elect officers, and charge members $10 to continue to be a full access member and stripped those of access to key info that did not pay. I paid my first year's dues, but after that the politics and such got so bad I just got tired of reading about it all and just stopped participating on that site. The same thing has happened on a truck forum I used to frequent. Also these sites I'm referring to would not tolerate anyone talking about a bad experience with a sponsor or their product, their posts would be deleted and/or the mods would come in and change it, kissing their sponsor's hind quarters in the edited post. All of this arose when the idea of set dues/membership fees came up, before that, there was no problems. Obviously this site is not considering that idea, so that is not something to be worried about. I used those as an example to show why discussion of set money, whether voluntary or involuntary is inappropriate in this environment.
Let me say, out of all the forums I've participated in, including non-tractor sites, this one is the best overall. I like that it is not structured like a club, there's no pecking order, no politics, and here everyone can act as individuals without regard as to what other people may think, because at least from what I've seen here, everyone knows how to engage in civilized conversation and people know when to be serious and when to be candid.
So at least from my experience, if someone feels the need to donate, please do so, if not, you don't have to. |
Maxwell Wheeler (Home of the Hot Rod 210)
Member
Username: Deerepower235
NC
Registered: 2-2003
Post Number: 635
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 10:08 am: |
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In regards to a plow day--I have access to right at 300 acres down here in NC that is just dying to host a plow day in the near future....freshly pulled tobacco fields, cut corn fields, some fescue currently all with red clay that will give even the biggest 430 a run for its money....
(Message edited by deerepower235 on October 16, 2006) |
Charlie Proctor
Member
Username: Digger
Mn.
Registered: 1-2003
Post Number: 138
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 10:26 am: |
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quote:Let me say, out of all the forums I've participated in, including non-tractor sites, this one is the best overall. I like that it is not structured like a club, there's no pecking order, no politics, and here everyone can act as individuals without regard as to what other people may think, because at least from what I've seen here, everyone knows how to engage in civilized conversation and people know when to be serious and when to be candid.
WELL SAID! |
Robb Kruger - This is my kinda place.
Board Administrator
Username: Robb318
MN
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 1876
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 11:52 am: |
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Look everyone! I came out!
Seriously. Jim, I thought you and I talked about this down at Travis Schweitzer's place. you don't need to call me out. Just drop me an email.
You know...this is a club... at least it is becoming more and more like that each year. But I doubt we will ever have elected officers and such. Gone are the days that Mike and I chat to figure out what to post so that others will start posting. I do remember when it was Mike or I every other post.
Now, 2800 people visit the site daily. The board has over 70000 posts on it. I can't keep up reading it all. And if you guys weren't such a great group... there would be no way to keep up with moderating. I just try to post once in a while so you guys don't forget who I am.
I don't think you will ever see WFm get to the point where we have to charge "dues". We manage to keep it all going through the sponsors, and the occasional donation from well intentioned members. Most of you support the site by just posting, and keeping the riff raff at bay. That's just fine with me. Trust me, if we are ever short of cash and are thinking about closing the doors, Mike and I will let all of you know.
Maxwell, I was a member of that other site for a while as well, even paid my $10 for a couple of years. Finally, I let it drop. Heck, I can't keep up with this site!
Oh, and just for the record. Thank you to all of you that have sent a "donation". I am sure Mike and I will enjoy it sitting in his garage...
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Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member
Username: Smurfslayer
Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 1681
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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Uh oh!
Mike and Robb have found a new use for the "Beer Money"... Errr... I mean the "donation" money!!!
-Chris |
Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member
Username: Smurfslayer
Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 1682
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 12:29 pm: |
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Maybe Mike and Robb could take all of the donation money after the "kegger" is over with and buy some land to have a Plow Day?! Probably get at least an acre in the model of no where with the left overs!
-Chris |
Jim Quarles
Member
Username: Jq730d
MO
Registered: 6-2005
Post Number: 798
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 12:34 pm: |
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Yeah, that's what I figured, spend it on beer.
Then get sh*t faced so you CAN'T read the posts! |
Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member
Username: Smurfslayer
Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 1683
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 12:47 pm: |
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Okay...
In all seriousness now... My $2.00 worth...
I think Alan has a great suggestion. If you think so too, then make your donation... If you don't, you don't have too. (May you be able to sleep at night, if you can, great! :-) )
I've been a member of this site for quite sometime. "Most" of the previous discussions for "fundraising" (while it has never been asked for, nor thought of as fundraising by the two "Founders") has centered around what the site is worth to you, and if you are an avid reader of the site, what is a magazine subscription worth, realizing that very few magazines have information specific to what you are looking for or relative to problem solving. So how do you put a value on tech support? You can't use what Microsoft uses? We'd all be broke, but have more bandwidth and disk space than we would know what to do with.
How much is a classified ad in the local paper going to cost you? What is the audience of your local paper/want ad, and then compare that to the web site and it's never ending boundaries?
[In my very own opinion] Each person (who is a regular reader or poster) probably should make a small donation once a year, or every other year. But there is no requirement, and I don't ever see Mike and Robb going down that path.
I know I've put my name in the hat for "if the web site is ever in trouble and may no longer be available" more than once. We has a community couldn't afford to loose it. What are you doing to help make sure that never happens?
There are a lot of things that go on behind the scenes of the web site that attributed to various peoples time. This time is FREE will donation to the site and its members. That helps keep the site free. No doubt many hours a day are spent by the moderators reading posts and updating the formatting (so the pictures are correct etc) for the rest of us to have a nicely laid out site that is free from problems and annoyances.
Have you priced bandwidth lately? It's come down a lot over the last couple of years. But everyday this site uses more and more bandwidth.
Have you got your tractor(s) in the Registry yet? :-)
Thanks,
-Chris |
Jim Dimmerling
Member
Username: Jdodad1
Ohio
Registered: 11-2003
Post Number: 589
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 1:24 pm: |
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Jim Q.
I am ROTFLMAO!
Well I doubt it all goes for beer! At least I hope not....
I will say that because of this site all our tractors have appreciated in value. The knowledge base is unreal. The folks are great.
With out WFM I would have to give up most of my stuff cause, why improve it?
We'd all be drivin cubbies then!!!
Later all,
Jim D. |
Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member
Username: Smurfslayer
Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 1684
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 2:02 pm: |
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Jim Q -
And that would make moderating a little easier!
-Chris |
Mike Gault
Member
Username: Mike
Mo
Registered: 1-2005
Post Number: 663
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 3:23 pm: |
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Robb - You gotta remember, I from Missouri so I only drink beer with a name I can pronounce. Is that Lean-in-krugger beer? |
Craig Barrett
Member
Username: John_deere_kid
PA
Registered: 8-2005
Post Number: 1108
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 3:58 pm: |
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I am very glad I had found this site and if it ever gets to the point where the hat needs passed. Let me know. Without this site, I probably wouldn't still have my tractor. Time for dinner. Ill be back. |
Lonny Buttke
Member
Username: Lonnyb
Wi
Registered: 1-2004
Post Number: 88
| | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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Charlie P.
What do you mean "no one wants to come this far north again"
I would gladly go to a plowday held that far north, heck its still a 3 hour drive south for me, and I do make it down to Travis's place every other year.
Now when it was at Menomonie, that was far north, but just west of me and darn it all I missed them, as I did not know of this site or plowdays back than. |
John Prue
Member
Username: Jd_novice
CT
Registered: 1-2005
Post Number: 153
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 4:33 am: |
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All,
If you give money because you feel it is worthwhile it usually feels good. Being told to pay, or being told to do anything for that matter, hardly ever gives people the warm fuzzys. The bitter taste stays a long time.
I did as Alan suggested about a year ago or so and got a very nice thank you from Robb, on behalf of all the moderators at WFM. |
Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member
Username: Smurfslayer
Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 1689
| | Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 5:13 pm: |
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I think that Mike and Robb might have gotten their "Johns" confused when they set up this site...
What do you think?
-Chris |
Steven Hull
Member
Username: Stevenh
NY
Registered: 9-2005
Post Number: 62
| | Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 6:25 pm: |
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Robb,
I tried e-maling you but I cant get it to work.
Could you drop me a line at schimh05@yahoo.com
I have a question about giving some money to the website thanks.
Steve |
