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Dean Anhorn
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Username: Arrowhunter
ND
Registered: 5-2010
Post Number: 26
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 8:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since I decided to repower the 'ol 317, I'd also like to spruce it up a little. Now my painting experience consists of helping the wife paint the bathroom walls, so is there an easy way to fix up the scratches in the hood and fender pan? I will be using the rattle can and don't expect showroom finish, just better than scratches and surface rust it has now. I don't have the time, skills or money to do this right.
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Jason Muth
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Username: Muthjd140
PA
Registered: 3-2010
Post Number: 176
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 9:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dean, get a mouse sander from wal mart and some mouse sand paper. this will run you about $40 bucks. sand it smooth and spray bomb it green.
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Andrew Schneider
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Username: Sandvikcity
ND
Registered: 7-2008
Post Number: 36
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dean I am also without time, money and skills. I use my little mouse sander like Jason mentioned and primer it to fill things in a little. Then being tight on money I got the Rustoleum John Deere rattle cans. I thought I was being smart but found out that their yellow is a little darker than should be. Save up for that JD brand stuff!
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Dean Anhorn
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Username: Arrowhunter
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Post Number: 28
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about some advice on what grit of paper and what kind of primer. Thanks for the reply's, Great advice!
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Paul Smith
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Username: Ethansdad
MI
Registered: 11-2005
Post Number: 248
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dean,

I am by no means a professional but for the scratches and such, I used a 2 part filler from an auto part store that sold paint. Wasn't really that expensive and some 400 grit sand paper level it out followed by some 600 grit. I have finished a couple hoods and am working on one right now and the best thing I can offer in regards to trying to get a good finish is wet sanding. I sprayed primer and wet sanded with 1000 grit, followed by a good coat of green. That was a week ago and am going to do a little more wet sanding tonight and put another coat of green on.

Again, I wont even tell you I have any idea what I'm doing but I've been happy with the two hoods I've done thus far.
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Matt
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Username: Harbertm
IA
Registered: 12-2008
Post Number: 194
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was told by a fellow WFM-er to use JD primer, and I love it! Try it yourself and I think you will be happy..

I've sandblasted a lot of my parts, and just last night I used my right angle grinder with 80 grid sand paper wheel I got from HomeDepot for less than $5.. Works great getting down to metal in a hurry..

Like I said, I've been using JD paints, and some will tell you they are the best, some will say use another brand, but heck you bought a green tractor and you should have known nothing is cheap :-)

If you want to use a spray gun, search "paint" and you will get all the information you need...
How do you prep to paint?
Base coat/ Clear coat painting
Painting process
Frame paint

If you want to watch the restoration process.. Check out Jim Browns thread..Started the 1989 332 restoration

The search tool is your friend, and you will find hours of information without every having to ask the same question twice! Here's how it works..
how to search

Then just as you would google search, enter in the word you are looking for. The less detailed you are the more returned items you will find.. The more detailed you are, the less items..

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Enjoy the hobby and Good luck!
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Jason Muth
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Username: Muthjd140
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Registered: 3-2010
Post Number: 177
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i would say rough it up with some 240 grit, then get some 400-600 wet sanding paper. it will give you a good finish. and yes, by all means go for the JD brand paint
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Chuck Weaver
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Username: Chuck_weaver
CO
Registered: 5-2009
Post Number: 110
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 6:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check out these Preval sprayers as a better alternative to rattle cans. I have had very good luck with them and the local Home Depot sells them. Probably paint stores do too.
http://www.preval.com/
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Dean Anhorn
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Username: Arrowhunter
ND
Registered: 5-2010
Post Number: 32
Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 9:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, just bought a couple of cans of "liquid gold" from mother deere! Didn't get any black tho, Can I use a cheaper black? What do you guys recommend, flat, semi-gloss or what?
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Mike Morris
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Username: Pgawanab69
OH
Registered: 1-2010
Post Number: 34
Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think I'm going to try the preval sprayer - do you use hardener with the paint just like you would a regular spray gun?
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Matt
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Username: Harbertm
IA
Registered: 12-2008
Post Number: 199
Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 1:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dean, its about your personal preference on Blitz black, semi gloss, or other...
Personally I used semi gloss on my frame 2 weeks ago and I REALLY like it.. (4 cans JD primer & 8 cans JD semi gloss on my 420 ) Check that frame link I provided above to see the difference between Army's two frames..

It's your restoration, so you can make this tractor how you like it...
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Kurt Wilson
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Username: Khwils
IL
Registered: 9-2007
Post Number: 100
Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I used to work on my own "cars of rust" when I was young and doing the body work. There was a product I got that came in a tube and essentially worked like auto body bondo only it was very smooth and easy to work with. I used it for filling scratches and paint chips. I used a small square thick rubber pad to apply to the area, it left very little sanding. I'll try to look up the product. You could ask a body man, they'll know.

Kurt

Got it, it's called glazing spot putty.
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kevin weimer
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Username: Kevin45
Ohio
Registered: 6-2010
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 4:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wet sand with 400 followed up with 600. For small chip and scratched you can get a tube of "icing" for your local paint supplier or some places like AutoZone, and Advanced Auto still sell Spot-N-Glaze which is a lacquer type of filler in a tube. For any bare metal, make sure you use primer. Sand everything smooth with 600, use a grease and wax cleaner, use a tack rag to remove any lint, then paint away.

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