Weekend Freedom Machines


 

Topics Topics Edit Profile Profile Help/Instructions Help Member List Member List Register for Account Register for Account  
Search Last 1|3|7 Days Search Search Tree View Tree View Clipart Clipart  

Bar Tires

Weekend Freedom Machines » The WFM Archives » Restoration Forum - Hydrostatic Tractors Archive » Bar Tires « Previous Next »

  Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post
  Start New Thread        

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Eric Behm
Member
Username: Mrgreen
NewYork
Registered: 3-2004
Post Number: 363
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 7:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking to get a set of 23x8.50-12 bar tires for my 140. Does anybody have any pics of theirs that you could show me? Looking for ideas.

Thanks,
Eric
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cliff Harms
Member
Username: Charms
mb
Registered: 5-2005
Post Number: 251
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 7:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These are Firestones. I like the way Firestone makes their lugs. I have another set on a 140 but no pics at present. I think they look pretty decent on the 140 with narrow front tri-ribs



Cliff
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kent "I have a bar tire fetish" Ortman
Moderator
Username: Kkortman112
IN
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 2469
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 7:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Eric.

Firestone Flotation 23 degree



Carlisle Power-Trac



Goodyear Super Terra Grip



I am also partial to the Tru-Power tread, but right now do not own a pair in the 8.50 size. I do have this comparison picture of my 10.50 Tru-Powers next to some 8.50 Firestones.



All but the Goodyears are available new still.

Kent
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jon Yearwood
Member
Username: Novajon
WI
Registered: 5-2005
Post Number: 212
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 5:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eric:

Here is a picture of the Carlisle's on my 140..
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Doug Linton
Member
Username: 425and300jd
In
Registered: 3-2006
Post Number: 96
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 2:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eric, Firestone 23 degree 26x12x12 on my 300.tires
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Eric Tenney
Member
Username: Jdlg
MN
Registered: 3-2007
Post Number: 482
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 4:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What size tires are on the 110 the real narrow ones.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kent "I have a bar tire fetish" Ortman
Moderator
Username: Kkortman112
IN
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 2470
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 8:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Eric. I have the narrow 6-12 Firestone All Traction Field & Road 23 degree tires on my '65 110.



Steve Abel (and also Tim Orick) have Goodyear Power-Torq 6-12 tires on their 1963 110's.



Kent
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Roger Henning
Member
Username: Woodpecker41
WI
Registered: 3-2002
Post Number: 2067
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 8:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The tires on the 110 are 23x10.50-12 Deestones that actually measure 8.50. The tires on the 213 are 23x10.50-12 Duros. Roger
65468745
ddddddt
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Corey David Winkler
Member
Username: Corey
MD
Registered: 4-2007
Post Number: 34
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 9:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since we are talking about tires I thought I'd ask. Will firestone's 23 degree 26x12-12 fit on a 23x8.50-12 rim? I was going to put these on my 140, I have already added thicker spacers to the fender deck for clearence.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

steven ingram
Member
Username: Greenandgoldfever
wi
Registered: 1-2005
Post Number: 75
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 9:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes they should , I have 26-12- 12 tru powers on 8.5 rims
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Doug Linton
Member
Username: 425and300jd
In
Registered: 3-2006
Post Number: 100
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 9:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,

The photo a few posts up of my Firestone 26x12x12 bar tires are on 9.5" rims. A side note, even in the narrow setting, they will not clear the anti scalp wheel brackets on my HO48E mower deck. I have 26x12x12 turf tires on 8.5" rims and they will clear, barely.

(Message edited by 425and300jd on December 27, 2007)

(Message edited by 425and300jd on December 27, 2007)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Roger Henning
Member
Username: Woodpecker41
WI
Registered: 3-2002
Post Number: 2070
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 3:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

23x8.50-12 tire rims are only 7" wide so no the 26x12.00-12 tires will not work very well on the them. They will end up very rounded in shape instead of flat like they are supposed to be. Tire widths verses rim widths are as follows. 6-12 tires use 5" rims. 23x8.50-12 tires use 7" rims. 23x10.50-12 tires use 8.5" rims. 26x12.00-12 tires use 9.5" or 10.5" rims. Roger
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jim Briney
Member
Username: Lodogg2221
IN
Registered: 1-2006
Post Number: 1462
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 4:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I really wish Firestone made those 23 degree bar tires in 23x10.50...they are my favorite looking Ag tire, but dont come in my size...not really a fan of the 26x12x12s, at least not on my tractor anyway.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Eric Behm
Member
Username: Mrgreen
NewYork
Registered: 3-2004
Post Number: 364
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 4:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the assortment of pictures guys it will really help in my decision.

Eric
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kenneth Dortch
Member
Username: Kdursus
CO
Registered: 8-2005
Post Number: 542
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 5:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eric Behm - These are the 8.5 Carlisle Tru Power:



Kenneth
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Roy Schroeder
Member
Username: Ereed011
Wi
Registered: 4-2007
Post Number: 1158
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 6:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These are what I have on my Cub and 140.
Tru-power 26x12x12's
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kenneth Dortch
Member
Username: Kdursus
CO
Registered: 8-2005
Post Number: 544
Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 8:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought Eric was asking about 23x8.5-12 bars?!?!?!?!?!?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Roy Schroeder
Member
Username: Ereed011
Wi
Registered: 4-2007
Post Number: 1161
Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 8:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess it went to giving him options.....ha
8.50 seems small to me for a 140.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Eric Tenney
Member
Username: Jdlg
MN
Registered: 3-2007
Post Number: 491
Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 9:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think if you were to put dual 6-12's on the back of the 140 with the tri-ribs in the front it would look neat. You have a mini 4020. That what my uncle says mine look like.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

jay dorsett
Member
Username: Hogedog
sd
Registered: 11-2006
Post Number: 87
Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 1:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth Dorch- your 110 is set up perfect! Very nice machine.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Elliott Domans
Member
Username: Country_elliott
TN
Registered: 7-2005
Post Number: 654
Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Eric...Here's my 140 H3 with its NEW 26x12x12 Deestones on 23x10.5x12 rims (just for a different perspective),,,Elliott
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Eric Behm
Member
Username: Mrgreen
NewYork
Registered: 3-2004
Post Number: 366
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 7:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I ended up buying the Carlisle Tru Powers like Ken Dortch has on his 110. I got them for $45/ea I didn't think that was too bad for them.

Eric
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Eric Behm
Member
Username: Mrgreen
NewYork
Registered: 3-2004
Post Number: 367
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 8:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They are going on my 68 140. I wanted to keep the original size tires on it. After I restore it it's only job will be hauling my log splitter around the yard and moving trailers. If I get the itch I have plenty of 26x10.5-12 super lugs laying around I can slap on it.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kenneth Dortch
Member
Username: Kdursus
CO
Registered: 8-2005
Post Number: 545
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 1:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jay dorsett - Thanks for the complement on the 110, glad you like it. I think it pretty cool too.

Eric Behm - That's cool on your tire choice. I like the bar pattern on Tru Powers. You know you'll have post some pix when you get'em mounted for sure.

Kenneth
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Eric Behm
Member
Username: Mrgreen
NewYork
Registered: 3-2004
Post Number: 368
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ken I will definitely get some pics. I've got the 26x12-12 Tru Powers on my 455 I just didn't know how they looked in the 8.5 version. I think they will look fine on the 140.

Eric
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Tom Shively
Member
Username: Shivelyt
In
Registered: 11-2004
Post Number: 406
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 5:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Elliot,
That is a good lookin' 140. I'm thinking about those tires for my 120. Did you have to raise the fender pan to make them fit? And what about clearance on a mower deck? Tom
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Tom Shively
Member
Username: Shivelyt
In
Registered: 11-2004
Post Number: 408
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 3:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kent,
I see you have several tractors. I'm not far away if you need someone to store them for you. That's a nice lookin' fleet!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kent "I have a bar tire fetish" Ortman
Moderator
Username: Kkortman112
IN
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 2494
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 5:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Tom. Nope, not too far away, looks like you are just north of Akron, maybe a half hour or so away from me. I actually live five miles east of Winamac. Right now there aren't any storage problems, especially since my 120 is just a pile of parts. If you ever get over this way, feel free to give me a shout and I can give you a tour of "Deerehaus Archives". Be prepared to stay awhile though, as I had a guy from down at Twelve Mile come up saturday to buy some 200 series parts and he was here six hours...... :-)

Kent
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ron Geer
Member
Username: Striperon
ME
Registered: 9-2007
Post Number: 26
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 7:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My understanding is that there are fewer pounds per square inch (psi) when the same weight is on wider tires.

So, depending on their use, a narrower tire would be the right choice for the times when more traction is needed (snow removal), if my understanding is correct.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jim Briney
Member
Username: Lodogg2221
IN
Registered: 1-2006
Post Number: 1494
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 9:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ron, correct. Narrower tire equals more ground pressure, wider equals less. BUT, that also depends on the amount of tread in contact with the ground...so a lug tire will have more ground pressure than a turf of the same width and diameter...
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ron Geer
Member
Username: Striperon
ME
Registered: 9-2007
Post Number: 28
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree, Jim. A lug tire will exert more ground pressure than a turf tire because the amount of surface on the ground is less, thus more psi. The form of the lug is another factor for greater traction. The turf tire is designed to create the least amount of soil compaction on the lawn with its lower psi.

A narrow tire of either tread exerts more pressure than a wide tire of the same tread, more psi.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Elliott Domans
Member
Username: Country_elliott
TN
Registered: 7-2005
Post Number: 666
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 7:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Tom...THANKS for the kind words about my 140! I didn't have to raise the fender at all for the 26x12x12 Deestones. I'm waiting on my NEW tri-rib front tires from Tucker Tire to see how they'll level out the tractor. I sold the 48 inch mowing deck, so I can't tell you about any deck clearences...Elliott
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

David Merryfield
Member
Username: Gonetofarm
TX
Registered: 8-2004
Post Number: 348
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 8:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One thing I know about the deestones, those tires run a bit smaller size for size when compared to some of the other brands. I know the 23-10.50 tru-powers were quite a bit larger than the deestones of the same size on my brother's 312 when he had them on. The deestones were both narrower and shorter when measured. I would imagine the same could be said about the larger 26-12-12 deestone's too.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Roger Henning
Member
Username: Woodpecker41
WI
Registered: 3-2002
Post Number: 2084
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The 10.50 Deestones on my 110 above measure out as 8.50s and were sold to me as 8.50s by Tucker. The side wall says they are 10.50s. Roger
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jon Dyer
Member
Username: Jonnyd
MI
Registered: 2-2006
Post Number: 26
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apparently you can also buy tru-powers in a 6-12 (just found some on ebay) for the dually look. Will wheels from an older 110 (5" wide) have the same bolt pattern as my 140? I might want to go with the mini 4020 look...
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Loren Vosberg Jr
Member
Username: Lorenjr
mn
Registered: 5-2006
Post Number: 215
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jon,
I have a set of rims off a 140 on my 64 110 with 26x12x12 tru-powers on so the 110 wheels will fit your 140.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Bill Robinson
Member
Username: Jacsam
Va
Registered: 5-2006
Post Number: 526
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 7:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jon, these are 6-12 tru-powers.

Bill

Add Your Message Here
Posting is currently disabled in this topic. Contact your discussion moderator for more information.

Administration Administration Log Out Log Out   Previous Page Previous Page Next Page Next Page