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Tony
Member
Username: Mn317
MN
Registered: 7-2007
Post Number: 234
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 8:37 am: | 
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JDF, I have the same wheel weights I haven't seen them anywhere else, funny.
I agree that it's either a 316k or a 300 |
andy fisher (gotta love a thumper)
Member
Username: 110johndeere
pa
Registered: 2-2008
Post Number: 388
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 7:44 am: |
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jerry no package deal, weights on craigslist and the cart came from #bay.
i'm guessing you are going to pass on that frankendeere???? might be worth it to pick up IF you have time to pick it apart...
but then again you know what's said about that 
later
andy |
Dennis Witkins
Member
Username: Ringneck
IL
Registered: 5-2009
Post Number: 14
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 7:20 am: |
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Chas - good luck with the 212. You'll get a lot of seat time if you plan on doing a 3/4 mile driveway with a 212 blower 
Spend some time checking the variator - make sure it speeds up & slows down the tractor. they can get stuck if the tractor has been sitting. I've had my 216 for a year now and have had to replace various bearings - none difficult and none that make me regret owning it. I'd also plan on changing the belts after you get it. |
JDF
Member
Username: Swampfox
Registered: 11-2008
Post Number: 855
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 5:07 am: |
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Thank you Chuck and Andrew, I knew someone would figure it out. I have a chance to get it as seen in the pics for $550 but to tell ya the truth, the last thing I want is a bastard child that would require fixing someone else's "Jerry Rigging" to make it a dependable and useful tractor. Lord knows what they have done here if it is truly a transplanted Onan. If I wanted to be an ax man, I could part it out for more money though.......hmmmmmm. |
Chuck Van Dusen
Member
Username: Chuckv
OR
Registered: 1-2007
Post Number: 2872
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 11:32 pm: |
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Andrew,
Good call on the steering nuances -- definitely not a 317 frame under there and therefore most likely started life as a single cylinder closed frame 300 or 316K tractor.
Chuck |
Chuck Van Dusen
Member
Username: Chuckv
OR
Registered: 1-2007
Post Number: 2871
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 11:22 pm: |
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Jerry,
I thought at first glance that it might be a 317...some of these had a P218G Onan put in by dealers as a warranty replacement of the failed Kohler 17 twin. The side covers are not quite right though, and the exhaust is not on the same side as the original 317. The fender pan IS a match to the 317 however -- as is the hood with the light panel that does not wrap around to the sides like a 318. Maybe it is an owner re-power and the 318 style muffler was used so the side covers needed to also be transplanted. I see the screens at the rear facet of the side cover, just like a 318
I had a 317 with Onan about a year or more ago -- if you recall it was the one with all the pavement sealer on the bodywork and wheels/tires. Here is a profile shot of it with the larger tires and wheels that are now on my 322:
And here is a 'before' shot with the pavement sealer just about everywhere...
These can be really great little tractors, but the closed frame makes for a completely different set of rear attachments than those that fit your 322. All the front attachments will fit, and the deck just needs a different set of lift arms to work.
Chuck |
Andrew Meissner
Member
Username: Ameissner
MT
Registered: 4-2009
Post Number: 6
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 11:18 pm: |
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JDF, It's a closed frame tractor and does not appear to have the steering setup that the 314 and 317 tractors have. I'd say 300 or 316 Kohler. |
JDF
Member
Username: Swampfox
Registered: 11-2008
Post Number: 854
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:59 pm: |
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I meant to post this pic too. What is this? 300? 316? 317? With a 18hp Onan? Maybe a 318 with a different fender deck on it? Would it fit? Help...
Andy, great find,.....hmmmmm. Package deal? |
JDF
Member
Username: Swampfox
Registered: 11-2008
Post Number: 853
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:50 pm: |
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What is this? Owner doesn't know? Says it has an Onan 18 motor. No serial number,etc...
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Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member
Username: Smurfslayer
Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 2719
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 8:23 pm: |
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All -
Just 85 more tractors to go 'til we hit the 10,000 mark!
Have you entered your tractor(s) yet?
-Chris |
andy fisher (gotta love a thumper)
Member
Username: 110johndeere
pa
Registered: 2-2008
Post Number: 387
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 8:00 pm: |
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scored myself some good birthday presents yesterday and today......
pic #1... two for 15 bucks
pic #2-3.... very straight foil tag 80 cart WITH a NON rusted through tailgate. could not believe it when i saw it. it does have a heavy surface rust on the bottom edge as seen in the last pic but it's on the way to the blaster tomorrow to nip that problem right away.
the cart is really dirty right now but it's getting a good cleaning and a heavy coat of wax before summer duty...... the tailgate will get paint and a new decal tomorrow after the sandblaster and then i'll make a copy to use with the cart and the original gate will get hung on the garage wall.
enjoy
later
andy
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Eric Behm
Member
Username: Mrgreen
NewYork
Registered: 3-2004
Post Number: 744
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 6:27 pm: |
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I'll be glad to lend him some rocks! Nothing better than drinking beer and watching someone else work! |
Army
Member
Username: Army
ON
Registered: 6-2005
Post Number: 2870
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 5:51 pm: |
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Darrin.. Don't buy one of those cheap Chinese rocks. They have a lot of limestone in them. I'm pretty sure your brother has a good rock he'd lend you. Just take him over some Labatts Blue.
Army |
Wayne R. West
Member
Username: Wayne270
MI
Registered: 12-2009
Post Number: 10
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 5:37 pm: |
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David: I bought a 430 last month with about the same number of hours on it. I can't tell you much about the lifespan of the Yanmar diesel. A lot of that probably will depend on how well it was treated by the prior owner-s. The first thing I did was change the engine oil and filter, change the hydrostat oil and filter, flush the cooling system and replace coolant. My steering was very sloppy. The connector pins for the power steering cylinder were worn. I replaced the one I could get at. The other one will be replaced when I remove the cozy cab and body for repair and repaint this coming spring.
So far my 430 is doing great at snow removal with the 47 2 stage blower.
Wayne |
Chas Weller
Member
Username: Chas_weller
PA
Registered: 1-2010
Post Number: 1
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 5:32 pm: |
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So tomorrow I will go to purchase my first John Deere or for that matter any garden tractor. I am going to buy a John Deere 212 with mower(48), blade and snowblower(38), 1987 serial number as long as it runs I will buy it. Last year I returned to central PA on a small property but need mower - the plow and blower are probably too small to really help I have almost 3/4 mile drive/private road. Please let me know what if any critical issues to look for? |
Darrin Behm
Member
Username: Dirtweed
NY
Registered: 7-2006
Post Number: 808
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 4:50 pm: |
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A rock....LOL, that's what I am missing.
D |
mark mann
Member
Username: Welder
NY
Registered: 8-2009
Post Number: 73
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 4:09 pm: |
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After stripping my 212 down to the frame, I pretty much came to a conclusion. Vintage 200 series JD tractors are like old chevys. A 9/16th" and a 1/2" wrench, a screwdriver and a rock and you can just about fix anything on one. |
JRL
Member
Username: Jlang
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 4742
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 4:07 pm: |
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JD, I once bought a low hour 318 with the engine in a basket for $500. I now have an engine for it, but have not yet finished the project. |
John W. Smith
Member
Username: Vette_185
IN
Registered: 5-2006
Post Number: 106
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 1:36 pm: |
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Blake,
That is great if you can get them at scrap price. I can make room if you don't need both. |
Chuck Van Dusen
Member
Username: Chuckv
OR
Registered: 1-2007
Post Number: 2868
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 11:49 am: |
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JD Spencer,
Welcome to the WFM forum -- you could not have a better set of initials for this site!
If your 316 is an Onan powered one that has the later engine (P218G / 18 HP rather than the earlier B43E / 16 HP engine) AND the 318 is a later version (post 1986) that has the frame cutout for the starter solenoid mounted to the starter motor itself, then the engine from your 316 will drop right in. If the 318 is a 1986 or earlier and you have the later P series engine from your other tractor, you will have to notch the frame to clear the solenoid, and the drive shaft will need to be adapted to the flywheel as it is a different length between the two engine types. Conversely if your 316 has a B43E engine and the 318 is an early model, the engine will drop right in as well, but it will be two horsepower short of the original 318's rating. Finally, using the early 316 Onan engine in a later 318 would require a shorter drive shaft and the addition of a separate solenoid on the firewall. Hope this long post does not make it seem more complicated than it is -- these engine swaps are pretty straightforward.
I once bought a 318 with a good low hour replacement P218G engine and poor condition otherwise for $300, and at another time bought a 316 in fair shape but with a thrown rod for about the same amount. These were good finds, so you may need to give a bit more for the "rolling chassis without engine..." but you could start there.
Good luck,
Chuck |
JD Spencer
Member
Username: Joebuck
wv
Registered: 12-2009
Post Number: 3
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:41 am: |
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I own a 316 w/good motor but have a chance to buy a 318 body w/o motor or deck. Everything else is there and in great shape, barely a scratch anywhere. Who would buy the 318 and switch motor, also how much should I pay for this GOOD looking 318. |
Al Zimmerman
Member
Username: Afzimm
MN
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 1352
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 10:38 am: |
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Mike Gault- Nice picture, looks like St Louis has enuff snow too. We are getting into the 30s this week so will melt some of the stuff. Hope you are getting warmer weather, December was a bear up here, many days and nights below zero. AZ |
Mike Gault
Member
Username: Mike
Mo
Registered: 1-2005
Post Number: 1600
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 9:28 am: |
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Jame C - Yes
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Keith Snyder
Member
Username: K91
PA
Registered: 4-2009
Post Number: 85
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 7:18 am: |
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Blake be sure and post some pics when you get the 318s home. |
blake kearns
Member
Username: Blake8105
mi
Registered: 11-2008
Post Number: 27
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 5:54 am: |
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actually the 318's were gonna go to scrap yard so i am getting them for scrap price. they were used in a dairy barn before they bought a skidsteer. |
John J, Berens
Member
Username: John_b
Indiana
Registered: 9-2009
Post Number: 53
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 9:03 pm: |
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I finally had time and all the new parts I needed to finish rebuilding my engine for my 67' 110H tonight. I hope to run it on the bench tomorrow and test it before painting |
Roger Henning
Member
Username: Woodpecker41
WI
Registered: 3-2002
Post Number: 3845
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 7:39 pm: |
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Mark a 216 is the same tractor as far as the hydraulic lift as a 210, 212 and 214. All 200 lifts like this were added by the dealer not at the factory. Roger |
Mike Duwe
Member
Username: Mikeduwe
Wi
Registered: 10-2006
Post Number: 3745
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 6:57 pm: |
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Blake, my 44 loader is in very good shape but is quite slow in my opinion. This spring its going to get some new blood (oil) and hopefully that will help a little, but probably not much. |
Army
Member
Username: Army
ON
Registered: 6-2005
Post Number: 2866
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 5:56 pm: |
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Blake.. are the 318's a dowry?
Army |
Kevin Leopold
Member
Username: Ktleopol
OH
Registered: 3-2009
Post Number: 14
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 5:51 pm: |
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Blake if you don't want to rebuild them 318's just give me a call and I will take them off your hands! |
mark mann
Member
Username: Welder
NY
Registered: 8-2009
Post Number: 66
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 5:17 pm: |
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Bill, could you forward those bumper pics to me also. I really like the looks of it. Is there a hydraulic set up from the factory for 212's? I spent a few hours searching. But all's I come up with are 216 posts. |
Jame Collins
Member
Username: Collins6738
NE
Registered: 1-2010
Post Number: 3
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 4:24 pm: |
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Can someone tell me how well a John Deere 332 will push snow with 54" plow? I'm thinking about getting one, my 332 all ready has wheel weights and chains. Thanks James |
Dale W. Vogel
Member
Username: Sandburr
IL
Registered: 3-2007
Post Number: 165
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 3:10 pm: |
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Blake you better snap those two tractors ! If you had to buy some time, just hone the cylinders and re-ring them. I've run my 316 onan now for two years now without issue doing same thing, and one cylinder was somewhat egg shaped. Then save your money for new engines. Sell one as is to offset the reman of the other tractor. You have plenty of options. |
blake kearns
Member
Username: Blake8105
mi
Registered: 11-2008
Post Number: 26
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 2:05 pm: |
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Can anyone tell me how hard it would be to rebuild an engine on a 318? I have been offered 2 318's with front end loaders from the future inlaws farm for next to nothing. both engines smoke bad and loaders move slow. both include 3 point hitch. |
Loren Vosberg Jr
Member
Username: Lorenjr
mn
Registered: 5-2006
Post Number: 552
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 12:41 pm: |
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Ken, yes that hitch will fit your 140 but you would need the correct lift rod for the hydro tractors |
Ken Boyles
Member
Username: Kenb
WI
Registered: 11-2007
Post Number: 21
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 12:21 pm: |
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Will the hitch in this local add fit my 140?
John Deere ground engaging hitch to fit tractor models 110, 112, 208, 210, 212, 214, and 216. Does not include the Brinely plow shown in the picture. This plow is available for $225.
Ken B |
kelley myers
Member
Username: Myers007
pa
Registered: 12-2009
Post Number: 4
| | Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 11:17 am: |
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Hi sorry i won't do that again ha,ha i will sent pic's of my jd collection .ps i love this site |
Max Hendrix
Member
Username: Greenmotorman101
TX
Registered: 6-2007
Post Number: 94
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 11:36 pm: |
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Kelley
Welcome to WFM. You will enjoy this group discussion of JD LGT info and learn lots from the other members. Please take the CL posting info with a grain of salt. There is a valid reason for the rule and the owners/moderators tend to enforce it rigorously.
Be aware that hanging around here will lead to the green sickness and a garage full of projects |
David W. Johnson
Member
Username: Djohnson
IL
Registered: 9-2008
Post Number: 24
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 9:21 pm: |
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I have an opportunity to acquire a 430 (S/N 590XXX) with approximately 2,100 hours on it. It's been a general mowing machine and has not done much else. I've made my mind up to go and get it, even if it is a basket case. I've always wanted a 430 and this just fell into my lap. I know that the diesels last longer, but based on the hours and assuming it was generally taken care of, where bouts in the engine's life span do you think it lies? What sort of things should I be concerned with or be thinking about once I get it home? |
Drew Gardner
Member
Username: Dg330
AL
Registered: 5-2009
Post Number: 320
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 8:14 pm: |
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Hey Kelley
Welcome to WFM, there is a wealth of knowledge on this site, We are glad you joined. Alot of times the rules of the forum get overlooked at the top of the page
Use this Forum for general discussions about John Deere Garden Tractors built prior to 1992.
* Absolutely NO *For Sale* ads on this Forum. Please use the Classifieds Forum for those types of posts. Any ad, no matter how thinly veiled, will be moved or deleted at the Moderators discretion.
* No "What's it worth" ads. No exceptions.
* No eBay ads. Please no posting of eBay or Craigslist items until after the auction closes.
I dont want to sound mean in anyway, Its just a reminder
Thanks, Again Welcome to WFM} |
kelley myers
Member
Username: Myers007
pa
Registered: 12-2009
Post Number: 2
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 7:34 pm: |
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Hi everyone this is my first post .I just saw a 1965 110 restored for $1200 on craigslist in pa |
Jim Dimmerling
Member
Username: Jdodad1
Ohio
Registered: 11-2003
Post Number: 1531
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 7:15 pm: |
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LOL....prize goes to Ralph.....he wasnt guessing!
George....I dont think 330's and 332's have a firewall either.......... |
JRL
Member
Username: Jlang
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 4741
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 7:12 pm: |
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Jim, It looks like the radiator is at the front end, so it must be a 430, not 330 or 332. |
Ralph Adcock
Member
Username: Illinoisdeere
IL
Registered: 7-2005
Post Number: 248
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 7:02 pm: |
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Jim, looks like a 430 for another project your working on. |
j miller
Member
Username: Miller_time
pa
Registered: 12-2007
Post Number: 109
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 6:45 pm: |
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jim obviously a diesel maybe 430? |
Georg Heck
Member
Username: Montanany
NY
Registered: 3-2004
Post Number: 1514
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 6:42 pm: |
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Jim, I am leaning to that "find" being a 330 or a 332. I think a 430 might be too long to fit in your truck bed......but might since there is no rear-end.
UPDATE - now leaning to 430 since there looks to be a spot on the frame for the 2 speed lever. |
Bill Robinson
Member
Username: Jacsam
Va
Registered: 5-2006
Post Number: 848
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 6:23 pm: |
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Spring's right around the corner! Hooked up the plow today to try out my rebuilt hydraulic cylinder and newly installed 3-point.
Worked great other than the ground being frozen about 4" down.
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Jim Dimmerling
Member
Username: Jdodad1
Ohio
Registered: 11-2003
Post Number: 1528
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 5:25 pm: |
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Left at who knows when around 0 dark 30....who can sleep when there are deere to rescue??
692 miles round trip....went out to flatlander heaven, middle of nowhere, a 1 horse town.
Picked up this "road kill".....at one time, the big buck of the deere family.
Not much left after the poachers and vultures finished picking at the carcass.
A clue here.....
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Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member
Username: Smurfslayer
Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 2718
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 4:45 pm: |
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The following folks' emails bounced back:
Kenny Sutton
Ed Schanely
-Chris |
Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member
Username: Smurfslayer
Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 2717
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 4:44 pm: |
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Another update!
We only need 97 tractors now to hit the 10,000 mark.
On a side note, I just answered 35+ emails and updated over 55 tractor records in the database.
I'm now working backwards. I believe I have answered all emails back to November 1st 2009. If you emailed me since then, and did NOT get a response from me, please shoot me another email.
It's slow and coming, but I'm getting there.
Thanks,
-Chris |
Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member
Username: Smurfslayer
Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002
Post Number: 2716
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 2:05 pm: |
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All -
We just need 103 more tractors to hit the 10,000 mark! There are currently only 7 tractors that have been entered in the "7 days"... Kinda low since we've been above 35/40 for quite some time!
Thanks,
-Chris |
Bill Robinson
Member
Username: Jacsam
Va
Registered: 5-2006
Post Number: 847
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 8:52 am: |
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Mark, I sent you a couple of pics.
Bill |
Mark A. Miller
Member
Username: Monkey_business
IL
Registered: 6-2005
Post Number: 1114
| | Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 1:40 am: |
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Lowel, Nope, haven't had that pleasure yet. Bill Robinson: any chance of some measurements/closeups of that "hood saving push bumper"? |
Steve Adams
Member
Username: Flyrod43050
ohio
Registered: 6-2007
Post Number: 156
| | Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 9:11 pm: |
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I am here to tell ya, for winter use them Carlisle All trails work GREAT. 69 140 with 54 blade and no weights,, well except for my 270lbs |
Lowell Gates
Member
Username: Lgates110
MO
Registered: 11-2006
Post Number: 2106
| | Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 6:57 pm: |
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Went out to blow some "re-blown" drifts with the 74-112 today.
Blower wouldn't move up or down! Crawled under to check, actuator was jerking but not moving in or out. Put the heat gun on it for a few minutes & it started working! Apparently some snow had worked into it the last time I used it & froze it up!
Anybody else ever have this problem? ~~ Lowell |
Bika
Member
Username: Jbsdeere
OH
Registered: 6-2009
Post Number: 71
| | Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 12:08 am: |
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Adam, The cost of the implements for a 140 will be worth it. Look at it as a long term investment You buy the stuff over time so the costs seem to be absorbed easier.
I'm still waiting to come across the right 140 to keep my 210 company. |
Drew Gardner
Member
Username: Dg330
AL
Registered: 5-2009
Post Number: 317
| | Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 8:07 pm: |
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Thanks Josh.
I cant wait to try them out. I have heard some complaints about Tru Powers, and them not cleaning out so well in wet conditions. I hunted for a set of Firestones, which is what I wanted to begin with, but could never find any, so I went ahead and ordered the Tru Powers. Our soil down here is really sandy, As a matter of fact, the place I live is called "Sand Mountian" I didn't a problem with the Goodyears I had on it, Maybe these Tru Powers will be just fine. I think the V61's look great on these little tractors. They look like the front tires I have on my 5210. (which need replacing) |
Josh Drew
Member
Username: The_other_drew
WI
Registered: 11-2009
Post Number: 8
| | Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 7:45 pm: |
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Drew,
Those bar tires look nice on there.
Josh |
Bill Robinson
Member
Username: Jacsam
Va
Registered: 5-2006
Post Number: 843
| | Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 4:47 pm: |
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Mark, that's home made.
Bill. |
mark mann
Member
Username: Welder
NY
Registered: 8-2009
Post Number: 62
| | Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 3:22 pm: |
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Bill Robinson, Nice looking combination there! question for you. That front bumper set up. is that stock or did you fab it up? I like it very much. |
