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Steve Hayes
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 8:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott,
Thanks for the pics! I have not had a working camera since I made the changes to the 332 so I had no current shots.
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Adam J Quist
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 7:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found a snowblower locally to me and was wondering what to look for when I check it out. Its a model 49 that came off a 300 so I am assuming it will fit my 318. I'm figuring bearings, and the rotor shaft, but anything else?

Thanks
Adam
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Duane Plant
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 7:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you, I was able to get one from my local NAPA parts store which is a lot closer than John Deere.
I had ordered two idlers and the belt from the dealer but when I got there they had the wrong parts and I still had to pay an extra $15 dollars.
gearhead
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Shade Tree
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 7:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Harold
I bet John could take good pictures with my camera (I can't). I think it's the man - not the camera.
ST
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James Collins
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 7:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am in the market of getting a tiller for my JD 332. I dont know much about these so my question is can anyone give me some info on what seires I need and what to look for when it goes to buying one? Thanks for the help in advance James.
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Paul Lorentz
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 7:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adam- I meant to add this pic to the message. I nailed that 2x12 to the vertical member of the truss a few times :-)
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Harold Maat (gear oil and burnt atf are the only cologne a real man ever needs)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 6:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John, you always take such nice pictures, what kind of camera do you have?
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Scott Graser
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 6:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steve,

Here are a couple more pictures from PA Plow Day!!!

Scott

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Adam Vaught
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 5:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul and Dominic, thanks for the input on the chain hoist. I think I will be mounting my hoist almost exactly like Paul did. Adam
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Paul Lorentz
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 5:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I ordered the CTC loader today for my 332. Rod agreed with you guys about the 430 being a little long for a loader. He said he really likes the loader on the 332s. fyi. He said they have the capability of lifting 1000lbs. if the relief valve is turned up. Not that I would. In about 3 weeks I should have it to take pics for ya.

Dominic-Thanks for the loader emails. I don't have any welding experience so I didn't want to practice on that. I would also need to steal my dads welder which I'm planning on sometime for practice.

Paul Dyer- Where did you get those bar tires for the front of the 430? Brand? Did you like the way they worked? The other option is the V61s
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Matt
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 3:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul, Dang.. My Father would like to sell his restored LA... Fun little tractors!
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Timmermans Bros.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 3:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Duane,
I believe the 39 Decks use an 87" belt (87.100) and the 47 Decks use the 102" (102.300) according to JDparts.com. I also think they are "B" style v-belts. We get our deck belts from TSC here..but only deck belts!
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Duane Plant
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 3:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

on my 214M I need the blade to blade belt. I can get it from john Deere but it will take a week unless I pay an extra $15.00 which seems a bit pricey. Could someone tell me the size so I can try to get it somewhere else?
Thanks, gearhead
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JRL
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 2:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got this outfit all muddy this morning while spraying my sweet corn. The wheels were covered with mud. Washed it off and then figured it would be a good time for a couple photos of it.
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Paul Dyer
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 1:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Funny Matt. Actually,it's what it looks like now. I had two fender pans for it. When the tractor/loader was going to be cleaning out horse stalls and working with rocking a new driveway,I'd put the old pan on it because I didn't want the nice one all beat up. I don't mind letting family use my tractors,but they are not as nit picky as I am when the topic of scratches come up.
I just sold the setup a while back and have bought me a 1942 Deere "L" to restore. Hopefully I'll have it done by plow day and you can plow on this old 10hp guy.

Paul

http://www.machinefinder.com/ww/en-US/machine/1145766
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Matt
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 1:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul Dyer - that 430 picture must be old from before the Trailer Queen days! .. you know I'm kidding :-) We know it gets worked!

Paul Lorentz- I'm putting 6 ply V61's on the front of my 420/44.. And you can read up here on why the 4xx series is rated for a heavier loader than the smaller 3xx series.
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Steve Hayes
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ron,
I would be willing to bet that Z71 is setting in your driveway.
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Ron White
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steve,

I would love to have the Z71 Silverado behind and to the right.

The 332 does look neat with that hood color
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Steve Hayes
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 9:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stephen,
If you are going to buy a drill bit, buy one with a reverse twist. Sometimes simply drilling into the bolt with the reverse drill will back the bolt out.
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Steve Hayes
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I ran across this photo on another site taken at PA Plow Day. To my knowledge this is the only recent picture of my 332.

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stephen shiery
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 8:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I plan to get a couple of carbide bits and try a larger easy out.

The bolt is soft steel, so another possibility is to keep drilling holes until there's not much bolt left. By then I should be able to sort of collapse it with a chisel to get it loose from the cast iron and then take it out.
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Tom Maynard
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 7:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stephen for the last broken bolt that has an easy out in it go get yourself some carbide tip drill bits to drill through again and then try a bigger easy out.
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Paul Lorentz
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 7:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the responses guys. The site has seemed a little baren lately. I know it is summer and everyone is busy playing on these vs. talking about them :-)
Adam- I have a chain hoist and I took a 2x12x8ft and spanned it across 4 trusses right at one of the webs. The taller the block you use the better. two 2x12s would be better than 2 4x4s Think of how headers are used. If you do it there because it is a "v" with a vertical piece in the center of the "v" giving it strength. I've hung the back end of a 1/2 ton pickup with it already. I used a short chain to get it down below the sheetrock and hooked the hoist to that.
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Dominic Rutledge
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adam,
After years of moving pulleys and looking for rope I decided to Tie 3 rafters together at the peak with angle cut 2 x 8 lag bolted through the rafter and two 2x6 with an electric winch. I just put clips on the power cord and can use any 12V battery to lift. If I lift anything heavy I just need to add a pulley or two to double the lifting power of the winch. Works great for mowers, ATV's and deer in November.

Dom
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Paul Dyer
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul, I totally agree with what Cliff stated. If you go the 430 route, you'll need a heck of a lot of weight on the rear end! Been there-done that!

Paul

deere 430/loader
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Max Hendrix
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stephen Now that you have a hole in it, the torch trick Jerry is talking about using will work even better. Just try to keep the surrounding cast iron from getting too hot and the bolt should melt right out. with a broken ez out in there your options are much more limited but a torch should work well.
Max
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Adam Vaught
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I meant to say PAIN IN THE AXLE! Adam
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Adam Vaught
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stephen, how about PIN IN THE AXLE! Adam
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Adam Vaught
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steve just curious, how do you secure your "beam" to the bottom cord in the vertical position? I am not comfortable just toenailing it in. I guess blocking it somehow could work? Adam
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stephen shiery
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Broken bolt update. Three out of four came out easily. The fourth is still in there with a broken "easy out" in it now. I think I drilled the hole for that one too far off center. It's on an axle tube and I am soaking the hub with PB Blaster in case I need to take the axle tube off.

I guess I should start a thread on this tractor.
Anyone got a title?

"I've seen worse but not lately" comes to mind.
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Steve Sunderman
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adam, I have hoisted engines on truss's before. What I do is make up a beam out of 2X6's, nailing 2 or 3 together, making the beam long enough to span 4 or 5 rafters. I put the beam across the bottom cord of the rafters, and hook my chain hoist off the beam.
Steve
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Adam Vaught
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Thanks Cliff, I know I will have to limit my lifting. I think if I span say 4 trusses with a 4x4 or maybe a 4x4 with a 2x4 screwed to each side I should be OK. I was even thinking of spanning through the trusses not on the bottom board but higher through the bracing itself? My wife is really understanding about my tractor hobby but if I pull the roof down and it doesn't kill me she probably will! LOL! Adam
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Cliff Harms
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Adam. if you can limit yourself to lifting garden tractor engines or similar weight, a truss rafter (or better two) can easily support that weight. You wouldn't worry about a 200 lb guy putting his weight on it, would you? Just don't start lifting V8 engines or such. That's when a truss rafter can't handle it. That's my 2 cents.
Paul, I see no reason a 332 wouldn't make a fine loader tractor. For loader purposes weight and hydraulics do the work, I don't think horsepower is a huge factor. It has been pointed out that a 430's long front end is a hindrance to it being a great loader tractor as it requires the loader to be positioned farther forward, making the weight of the load farther ahead of the front wheels.
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Adam Vaught
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I am looking for advice on installing a chain hoist in my garage. The garage is attached with a truss roof. I only plan on lifting garden tractor engines and items of similar weight, maybe 500 lbs max. Have any of you guys done this before? I know I should build a swing set style frame out of steel I-beam but I really am hoping for a simpler solution. Adam
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Paul Lorentz
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 9:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you guys were going to get a loader, would you get one for the 332(that I have) or sell the 332 and get a 430 and put a loader on it? I've read threads on here about the 332 lacking power for stuff like that. I also have a 48" shaft driven tiller that I have run with the 332 and did have that "lack of power" problem casing it to shut down. Just looking for opinions. I have been teetering, somewhat leaning towards the 430 idea.
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JDF
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Stephen, This is a last resort thing to attempt.
Holes pointing down so the slag falls out of the hole, torch the bolts out. Be careful not to get the surrounding area too hot. The bolt should blow out of the hole before the metal around it melts. Then clean threads with a tap.
Like I said, try this only after everything else fails and you have nothing to lose. Knock on wood,It has worked a couple times for me.
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stephen shiery
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 3:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These bolts are broken off flush or slightly below the level of the cast iron in the transaxle. Some have a small dish of cast broken out around the bolt stub. It's not a pretty sight.
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Tom Smith
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Broken bolt/stud removal. You guys are gonna think I'm nuts, but I have done it and seen it done many many times. This will work if you can still get a grip on the broken stud/bolt. Heat the bolt up as hot as you can, then shove a block of wax down on it and hold it there while it cools. As the stud cools it will suck the melted wax into the threads. I have taken a pair of pliers and turned the broken bolt out it was that easy. Doesn't work for everything but it will work for most. Tom
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Randy Krochak
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Good Day All I have a 1987 John Deere 316 and was wondering if a dual hydrolic valve from a 317 will work on it? Also will the dual brake petals be adapted also to it? thanks
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George Dimoff
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 1:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Chuck and Stan for your help and the needed information. Now the fun begins.

George.
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Timmermans Bros.
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We attended a show in Ilderton, Ontario this weekend. Here are some pictures!


This is our's(first four) and Allen McBride's tractors here.

Check the Corner Store for some pictures of our new find...still looking for information as I searched the web and came up with nothing!
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Chuck Van Dusen
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

George,

The manual covering this engine is the CTM5. Here is an excerpt on the head torque:
Cylinder Head
Maximum Cylinder Head Warp . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.40 mm (0.015 in.)
Cap Screw Torque In Sequence
Initial Torque . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 N·m (89 lb-in)
Final Torque . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21 N·m (186 lb-in)


Please note carefully -- this is stated in pound INCHES and not pound feet, so divide by 12 if you have a torque wrench that is in those units. Final torque would be 15.5 LB-FT, for instance... I will send you some additional information via e-mail regarding valve clearances, etc.

Chuck
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Max Hendrix
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stephen, I strongly suggest using some heat on your broken bolts. That is one reason welding a nut onto a broken stud works so well. If you can get a friend to help with a welder, that would be good. Otherwise a torch or just a mapp gas or propane torch will help. Do not hammer the ez out into the hole. That will expand the bolt and cause it to become stuck even tighter.
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George Dimoff
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It has been brought to my attention that I didn't list the Kawasaki Power Pak engine series in my earlier post. the engine is a FA210D. If anyone would have the bolt torque and valve clearance for this engine it would sure be appreciated. Also I'd like to buy the manual or at least get the manual # for this system. Thanks again.
George
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stephen shiery
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 8:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Dominic. I have the PB Blaster soaking on those bolts now. I need to buy a good center punch though. Last time I removed a broken bolt was 20+ years ago.
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Dominic Rutledge
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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stephen,
A good center punch, sharp drill bit and ez out. Or a left hand drill bit. When the bit catches it will turn the bolt right out. Be sure to start soaking it with WD - 40 or something to help loosen and eat the rust.
Good luck. It's the ones that you don't expect to give you trouble that you can't get.
Dom
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stephen shiery
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A broken bolt extraction question. I have a tractor with four broken bolts that used to hold the transaxle to the frame and hitch plate. There was only one actually holding it on. The secondary belt and brake linkage were limiting the forward and reverse travel somewhat. P.O. must have had quite a ride one day to do that.

Any tips, tricks, good juju, or anything else anyone wants to pass on? I do not have a welder.
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stephen shiery
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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 7:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul, it's inflation and not the sidewall stiffness of the front tires that keeps them up with a loader mounted. A lot of guys seem to like the Vredestein V-61 tires. Other guys like three-rib front tractor tires. Other guys like the 4.80 x 8 tires fully inflated.
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Paul Lorentz
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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 6:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone had experience with IMF/CTC or Kwik-Way loaders? Pro's or con's of each? Also, will I need to get some harder side walled front tires when putting a loader on vs. the stock turf tires? Which kind are best in your opinion.
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George Dimoff
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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 5:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have just bought a 3 bag MCS with a Kawasaki Power Pak. Engine is down on compression. I disassembled the engine, rod and crank both look great. I'll mike to check the clearance's, rings and cylinder look ok. Valves need to be reground, which I will do today. Would anyone have the engine bolt torque specs. they could send me, also what the catalog # is for the MCS to order one. Thanks for any help. George.
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Adam J Quist
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Username: Aquist06
New York
Registered: 12-2009
Post Number: 192
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 9:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a good day hunting yesterday. I found a 3 point hitch Brinly plow in Vermont for $80.00. Its in great shape, I'll post some pics when I get a chance. Its a black model complete with everything.
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stephen shiery
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Username: Sashiery
MO
Registered: 12-2006
Post Number: 1418
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 7:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What Tom said. There are some real cutthroat guys selling stuff on eBay. It is not unusual to see rough used parts offered at more than new price when new parts are still available from JD. I report them when I have time.
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David Merryfield
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Username: Gonetofarm
TX
Registered: 8-2004
Post Number: 555
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 7:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom Smith:
I think most here know that. Still it was nice of you to post the comment as a lot of people cruise to this website and do not join and might not know that going to a dealer can be a benefit. So many parts
for these fine machines are still available generally at reasonable prices too. Meaning its not going to break you. But like anything it still pays to shop.
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Neil Paku
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Username: Neil
NY
Registered: 12-2009
Post Number: 106
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 7:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steven,
my 430 had 1100 hrs when I bought it over Xmas. I found that the high speed bearings e.g. the front and rear pto, the various idlers etc needed changing. I don't think mine was particularly well maintained but you might want to check them out. I'm replacing all of mine. Diesels in general last pretty well but it all depends on the maintenance. Someone mentioned frame cracking but mine's fine - mine blew snow and mowed. The other thing you could do is take a sample of oil from the engine and the transmission, which like a big tractor also runs the hydraulics. See what it starts like - it has glow plugs and mine starts better in the morning than I do : )
Let us know how you get on

Cheers
Neil.
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jake blissett
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Username: 7mag
ky
Registered: 4-2009
Post Number: 20
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 5:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

craigslist find of the day well almost i hope one of you guys got this .there was a 420 with snowplow and a cart on lexington's craigslist for $1000 .i called the guy and he said he would hold it for 2 hours for me .as i was hooking to to the trailer he called me back and said there was somebody there locally that stopped and bought it for $900 .i would not have sold if i gave somebody my word i would hold it but i hope atleast one of you guys bought it . jake
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Dawid Louw
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Username: David_louw
Ga
Registered: 5-2007
Post Number: 110
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 3:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul, Nice shop swing! Is that a hard hat and safety boots I see? Just kidding!!

I still fancy Gary's engine hoist, particularly with the bucket.
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Gary Blackman Jr.
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Username: Geb63619
Michigan
Registered: 3-2004
Post Number: 800
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Come on Al Z. who needs a fancy engine hoist for our little tractor motors LOL

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Steven Seck
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Username: Kansas318
Ks
Registered: 10-2009
Post Number: 32
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I took my 318 that I got for free last fall and took it home to Kansas. My family has had a couple 185's that were brought home at the same time for years. My brother could not understand why power steering was so nice on a lawnmower.

In the 3 weeks since it has been there he has not even thought of using the 185 and always borrows mine instead. (My brother, my wife, and my dad live within 1/2 mile of each other in the country.) He is now going to take a road trip tomorrow and will probably drag a 430 home so he doesnt have to drive my 318 to his house to mow his grass.

I got my 318 for free with just under 400 hours, and cleaned it up last winter. It isnt restored but I would call it refurbished. I have sanded and painted it to look basically new.

The 430 he is going to look at has 1400 hours on it. The current owner bought it when it had 300 hours and it has only been used to mow their lawn since. It also has the rear PTO.

We are not new to Deere equipment since we farm 4000 acres back home so working on these is not a problem but is there anything in particular to look for on a 430?

Steven
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Tom Smith
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Username: Tsmith1499
MD
Registered: 10-2009
Post Number: 4
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just a quick comment to everyone. Please check with your local John Deere dealer BEFORE purchasing things off of Ebay that say "rare". I work at a JD dealer and have found out by looking up a lot of part numbers, especially decals, that they there are a lot of parts still available from Deere and are CHEAPER than what they want on Ebay. Especially if you add in shipping. I'm not calling anyone out in particular, just trying to save us all a little hard earned money. Thanks, Tom
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Paul Lorentz
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Username: Paulorentz
MN
Registered: 3-2010
Post Number: 32
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I get a loader for my 332, do I need to get different tires for the front and what kind do you guys recommend?

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