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M. Drew
Member Username: Drew WI
Registered: 4-2007 Post Number: 745
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 4:27 pm: |
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Oats, I'd give a dollar to see someone fill their V61s with oats! lol |
   
Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member Username: Smurfslayer Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002 Post Number: 2751
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 1:59 pm: |
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All - I just made a bunch of changes/updates to the Registry. If you sent a request in and didn't get a response, please send it again. Thanks, -Chris |
   
Paul Lorentz
Member Username: Paulorentz MN
Registered: 3-2010 Post Number: 52
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 12:48 pm: |
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Look who and what I found yesterday. Glenn Peterson and the 320/4. He let me plow with it for my first plowing experience. Tough to beat that! Thanks Glenn.
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Joe Ingels
Member Username: Lgtjoe OH
Registered: 9-2003 Post Number: 404
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 9:47 am: |
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Faron,nice decals,and a neat touch on the side shields...Joe |
   
Roger Henning
Member Username: Woodpecker41 WI
Registered: 3-2002 Post Number: 4575
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 8:18 am: |
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Bika I don't think the gaskets are the same. The filter maybe. The fluid is not the same. CC use Hytran made by Case iH and the 140 used Type F automatic transmission fluid. For CC questions I would suggest joining this site http://www.ihcubcadet.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.pl. Roger |
   
Faron Freeman
Member Username: Freeman In
Registered: 2-2008 Post Number: 117
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 9:38 pm: |
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Got some of the sheetmetal on the 420D today. Everything is painted except the engine now. I will paint it after it is re assembled. Maybe it will be ready for fall plowing!
Faron |
   
david brockway
Member Username: Brockway MI
Registered: 7-2010 Post Number: 2
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 9:24 pm: |
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Thanks Paul they look great.Once I have my son show me how to post pictures I will display the pics of the one I had seen.It looked like they used all the parts of a 110 and just made the frame longer. |
   
Bika
Member Username: Jbsdeere OH
Registered: 6-2009 Post Number: 122
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 9:16 pm: |
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thanks, Roger. I was only asking because the 125 I'm looking at leaked all the fluid out of the rear gasket after sitting for 3 years. The engine fired up with no smoke or knock but the trans leaked all of its fluid from the gasket and I wanna know if they use the same filter/fluid. |
   
Roger Henning
Member Username: Woodpecker41 WI
Registered: 3-2002 Post Number: 4574
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 8:55 pm: |
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Bika both 140 JDs and 125 CCs used a Sunstrand model 15 pump but they do not interchange and the rest of the transmission is completely different. Roger |
   
Bika
Member Username: Jbsdeere OH
Registered: 6-2009 Post Number: 121
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 8:36 pm: |
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Sort of off topic, but did the old Cub Cadets (specifically '67 model 125) use the same hydro trans (Sunstrand) as the 120/140? |
   
Harold Maat (gear oil and burnt atf are the only cologne a real man ever needs)
Member Username: Hm12460 MI
Registered: 1-2004 Post Number: 1165
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 6:19 pm: |
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Vernon, before you do anything try a new spark plug. |
   
Vernon DeBuff
Member Username: Vdebuff MT
Registered: 11-2008 Post Number: 21
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 6:13 pm: |
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I picked up a 185 Hydro for a good price, at least I thought so at the time. I can't get the engine to start and stay running. I am getting spark and fuel. It backfires through the carb sometimes. Then it will start up and sit and run for 45 seconds sometimes, then die. Sometimes it will run only a few seconds, then die. Don't know if it is fuel or electronic. Don't know what to do next other than take it to the Deere shop. Any ideas out there? It has the Kawasaki FC540V engine. Purrs like a kitten when it runs. |
   
John Haines
Member Username: Username Pa
Registered: 12-2008 Post Number: 74
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 4:55 pm: |
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My uncle said years and years ago when they had no money to replace their leaking worn out tires they would fill them full of oats just after they were soaked in water. |
   
Jeremy Wrubel
Member Username: Bugeye110 MI
Registered: 11-2008 Post Number: 11
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 4:39 pm: |
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I bought a model 5A sprayer today and I cant find where the serial tag is, or where it was riveted on the sprayer. Where is the serial tag, and what years did they build the 5A? |
   
Paul Dyer
Member Username: Reydluap IA
Registered: 2-2002 Post Number: 509
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 2:20 pm: |
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David, I used a 1967 112RF to make my Deere "B". Lowell Gates started out with a Deere 60 to create his "Model L". Paul
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david brockway
Member Username: Brockway MI
Registered: 7-2010 Post Number: 1
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 1:34 pm: |
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Hey guys new guy here.Has anybody ever built a half size tractor like a a,b,or anything in that family of old school john deere?I saw one at a show.Just got to build one,just don't know what JD to use as a starting point a 110 or can I use a early 212 with out a electric clutch. |
   
Alan Nadeau
Member Username: Alan VT
Registered: 1-2006 Post Number: 1097
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 1:15 pm: |
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FWIW, for you guys in the snow belt. If you can find a dealer for "Magic -0°", a liquid deicer, look into that as an alternative for tire ballast. It is some sort of beet juice derivative, weighs something like 10.5 lbs/gal and is both non-corrosive and non-toxic, to vegetation and animals. On a related note, if you want an easy way to unballast tires that are beyond repair,,,, turn the tire/wheel so the stem is down and drill a 1/4" hole dead center in the tread at the top of the tire. When the air stops coming out turn the tire over and set it on top of a bucket. Now put some air back in, repeat as needed, and switch buckets if needed until the tire is blown dry. |
   
JDF
Member Username: Swampfox CO
Registered: 11-2008 Post Number: 1464
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 12:51 pm: |
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Joe, I haven't tried the stump again.....yet. Doug, The WWF will not come out until I "Tap (it) Out", Adam, I will be dead before WWF will ever corrode the rims enough to damage them. Then the next owner can deal with it. The inside of the rims still have factory paint on them that is 22 years old. You may think this sounds like I only care what happens to my rims while I have the tractor....... well, you're right. The motion example is good for thought, Thanks for pointing that out. I certainly was happy with the different ride I got and the stability on a side slope. I am near a hike path that I frequent with the tractor and I have tested the slope stability of the unit. I can't stay in the seat without holding on to the fender pan on the high side, and it stays on the slope better now. |
   
Adam Vaught
Member Username: Adam_214 MO
Registered: 10-2009 Post Number: 290
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 11:33 am: |
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Steve, I have often wondered if the rotational mass of wheel weights were harder on the transmission than liquid filled tires? I have always shied away from liquid because of the corrosion issues. Is there a liquid that is cost effective that doesn't corrode the rims? Does Jerry have anything to worry about using wiper fluid? I would love to get away from wheel weights on my 430 but the thing will spin the wheels easily without them. Adam |
   
Paul Lorentz
Member Username: Paulorentz MN
Registered: 3-2010 Post Number: 51
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 10:07 am: |
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Ok, Ok. I'll sell my tires.... Just kidding. Its good to hear the pros and cons of different options out there. You guys are a great resource. Anyway, heading off to a tractor show. http://www.littleloghouseshow.com/index.php?page=antique-power-show |
   
Steve Hayes
Member Username: Steveh VA
Registered: 5-2004 Post Number: 1725
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 9:56 am: |
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One other thing that makes fluid filled tires a good alternative is that starting and stopping the rotation of the tire does not require starting and stopping the entire mass of the liguid thus reducing the load on the transmission. To see how that works, take a common 20oz bottle of water or soda and lay it on it's side on a table top. Then roll the bottle back and forth. Basically the bottle spins but the liquid inside does not. |
   
Doug Linton
Member Username: 425and300jd In
Registered: 3-2006 Post Number: 897
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 8:41 am: |
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Jerry, Sure hope that the WWF does not try to wrestle their way out of your tires..... |
   
Joe Ingels
Member Username: Lgtjoe OH
Registered: 9-2003 Post Number: 403
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 8:19 am: |
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Jerry,did you go back and try the stump again?...Joe |
   
Steve Hayes
Member Username: Steveh VA
Registered: 5-2004 Post Number: 1724
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 8:16 am: |
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The commercial ZTR mowers are the most common tires we have foam filled and 2000hrs/yr is not uncommon on some of these machines. These guys get really annoyed when they have to stop mowing to fix a flat tire. As I said there are applications where FFTs make sense but based on my experience, I won't use them on my equipment. |
   
JDF
Member Username: Swampfox CO
Registered: 11-2008 Post Number: 1463
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 7:58 am: |
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Last weekend, after getting my 322 put all back together from some repairs, I tried to pull a rather big bush stump out of the back yard. No luck as it just spun out. I have often thought of the pros and cons of weight inside the tires that wouldn't require a socket to install. Because of this topic, I decided to put windshield washer fluid into my 26x12x12 rears yesterday. I jacked the tractor rears off the ground, rotated the valve stems to the 12 o'clock position removing the air valve, hooked up a hose and funnel. (MY rims has air valves on both sides of the rim, but in the same position) Because the inside valve was relieving air as I poured the WWF into the outside valve, it took approx. 3 minutes per gallon to install. Within 1 hour I had just less than 20 gallons in my tires.(9.75 gallons each tire) That and 8 lbs of air. What a difference approx. 175 lbs. made! The ride is smoother for sure. Best $40 I have spent for the results. |
   
stephen shiery
Member Username: Sashiery MO
Registered: 12-2006 Post Number: 1476
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 7:15 am: |
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Duane, a three-point blade with hydraulic angle would be cool. A semi-mount moldboard plow with separate lift for the rear would be cool. |
   
Duane Bartelt
Member Username: Esnb74 NE
Registered: 4-2010 Post Number: 3
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:00 pm: |
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Matt, Great question: right now I don't any implements that needs 4 ports. I made my aerator hyd lift. But I put two sets on there just because I thought it was cool and looked good. Never know, I may make something that will use all of the parts. . May make a wide sprayer with hyd lift booms. |
   
Paul Lorentz
Member Username: Paulorentz MN
Registered: 3-2010 Post Number: 50
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 9:44 pm: |
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I didn't know I was lighting a fire here. Anyway, I like the foam tires because they don't flex and it seems to push the lugs into the ground pretty nice. On the dirt they really dig in and get to business. I also like the added weight. The Mud Hooks are a little bit of a rough ride on the hard surfaces but I have to switch back to the 24" turf tires when I mow anyway. Like my dad says, "You can't put a price on fun!!!!!!" |
   
Jason Zinzow
Member Username: Jasonzman Wi
Registered: 7-2010 Post Number: 12
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 9:22 pm: |
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Personally I dont like foam filled tires, they wear alot faster and since they cant flex much it really impacts your traction. The only time i would consider foam tires is in an area prone to puncture and such (construction sites etc) |
   
Alan Nadeau
Member Username: Alan VT
Registered: 1-2006 Post Number: 1095
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 7:13 pm: |
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Other than the cost I'm a believer in foam filled tires. I've had three sets done, front casters on a ZTR, rear tires on a hydro walk behind and rears on my 400. None have shown any problems with tire damage. The rears on the 400 show plenty of flex and with five years of use they show virtually no wear. As far as ride quality my bum isn't sensitive enough to tell the difference between foam and air. I can't imagine why it would destroy the wheel when removing a foamed tire, probably not easy but doable. The way mine are lasting I may never have to deal with it. |
   
Adam Vaught
Member Username: Adam_214 MO
Registered: 10-2009 Post Number: 288
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 5:54 pm: |
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When I bought my 430 the front tires were foam filled. As Steve stated the foam does not allow the tire to flex and the result was the sidewalls were completely gone. I paid a local tire shop to cut the tires off and I mounted new V61's. Much happier with the way the tractor rides now, I personally would never recommend foam filled tires. Adam
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Paul Allen
Member Username: Pinbr md
Registered: 12-2007 Post Number: 246
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 5:41 pm: |
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We had foam filled tires on a skid loader, another problem with the tires not being able to flex is they don't get as good traction. Paul |
   
Jim Brown
Member Username: Jasbro2 GA
Registered: 3-2005 Post Number: 1010
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 5:01 pm: |
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Army, No banking today. With the chrome grill, automotive paint and several large boxes of John Deere parts I have already made several legal withdrawals to complete this custom color make over. Good thing the mechanicals seem solid so far -- knock on wood! By the way Alan my son did all the clean up, blasting, and painting on this one. Jim |
   
Army
Member Username: Army ON
Registered: 6-2005 Post Number: 3077
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 4:27 pm: |
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Jim.. you didn't do any banking today did you? http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/23/new.york.darth.vader.robbery/index.html?hpt=T2 Army |
   
Steve Hayes
Member Username: Steveh VA
Registered: 5-2004 Post Number: 1723
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 3:38 pm: |
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Vadeere, got it. |
   
Jim Brown
Member Username: Jasbro2 GA
Registered: 3-2005 Post Number: 1008
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 3:38 pm: |
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Steve, Thats to close to Darth Gator and I thought I would save that for some one who wants a custom black John Deere Gator. |
   
Steve Hayes
Member Username: Steveh VA
Registered: 5-2004 Post Number: 1722
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 3:32 pm: |
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Alan, I have several commercial customers that I have foam filled tires for their zero turn mowers. They can normally get a couple of seasons out of a set of tires before they are worn out. When it comes time to replace tires they just replace the wheel as well. All of them report the machines ride rough. All total I have had probably 2 dozen tires foam filled average cost is about $90 per tire to fill them above the cost of the wheel and tire. I have never owned a set, but I have driven a number of machines with FFTs and they ride noticably rougher. I have enough experience with FFTs to know I don't want them on my tractors. There are applications where FFTs make sense, just be aware there are trade offs. |
   
Steve Hayes
Member Username: Steveh VA
Registered: 5-2004 Post Number: 1721
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 3:26 pm: |
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Mike, Fill your tires with RV Anti-freeze at $2 gal it is not going to break the bank. it is a lot cheaper than foam and in the event you puncture a tire, yes some may leak but not all is going to leak out. What does leak is non-toxic so no harm done. The RV Anti-Freeze is non-corrosive so it will not harm the wheels if you choose to run tubeless. Plus, when you need to replace tires, simply remove the valve stem and turn the tire so it can drain into a bucket. Far simpler than having to cut the tire off the wheel and potentially ruining the wheel. |
   
Alan Nadeau
Member Username: Alan VT
Registered: 1-2006 Post Number: 1094
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 3:15 pm: |
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Steve, how many foam filled tires do you have personal experience with? |
   
Neal Warren
Member Username: Nealwarren GA
Registered: 5-2009 Post Number: 10
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 2:58 pm: |
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Steve, It's because Darth Vader was not named Darth Gader. Neal |
   
Mike Duwe
Member Username: Mikeduwe Wi
Registered: 10-2006 Post Number: 4418
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 2:43 pm: |
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Steve, I looked into foam filling tires. I'm chicken to put fluid in because of the chance of a puncture and loosing the money down the drain. Foam filling does give a LOT of weight per volume, but you pay for it, I believe it was about double the weight and cost of fluid filling. Jim, Nice lineup! |
   
Steve Hayes
Member Username: Steveh VA
Registered: 5-2004 Post Number: 1720
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 2:36 pm: |
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There are a number of problems with foam filled tires. 1. Foam Filed Tires (FFT)are expensive to have filled. 2. FFTs ride rough because the foam will not allow the tire to flex. 3. FFTs wear quicker again, because the foam does not allow the tire to flex. 4. FFTs must be cut off the wheel once they are worn out and many times you ruin the wheels in the process. The only two advantages I see to FFT is 1. Extra weight. 2. Puncture proof. |
   
Steve Hayes
Member Username: Steveh VA
Registered: 5-2004 Post Number: 1719
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 2:21 pm: |
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Jim, Maybe you explained it somewhere and I missed it, but "Darth VA Deere"? I don't get it, you're from GA? Shouldn't it be "Darth GA Deere"? Very nice job, BTW! |
   
Vernon DeBuff
Member Username: Vdebuff MT
Registered: 11-2008 Post Number: 20
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 1:52 pm: |
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On a 185, is there any timing adjustment? |
   
Jim Brown
Member Username: Jasbro2 GA
Registered: 3-2005 Post Number: 1007
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 1:46 pm: |
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Since we got the 332 done I needed to get a group shoot of the herd to update the picture in our profile.
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matthew smith
Member Username: Mattsmith OR
Registered: 5-2010 Post Number: 12
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 1:34 pm: |
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Hello WFM. I am looking for information on a power flow bagger for my 300 with original 46 inch deck. I looked in the technical facts page in the what attachments fit what. Got some #s called my local deere dealer and they didn't have anything (not that they ever try very had customer service is DEAD). in the what attachments fit what section it says a blower from a 100 series can be used if you have the right mounting hardware. Has anyone tried this? does anyone know if i can still get one new or what 100 series i should look for with a power flow on it to purchase? any help would be appreciated. |
   
Matt
Member Username: Harbertm IA
Registered: 12-2008 Post Number: 201
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 12:44 pm: |
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Tom Smith. I believe I read somewhere that you can send an email to a WFM moderator ( I believe Chris Neal chris@weekendfreedommachines.org ) and ask him to place the notation of the color on your 1969 Patio. |
   
Paul Lorentz
Member Username: Paulorentz MN
Registered: 3-2010 Post Number: 49
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 9:19 am: |
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Tom- I bought the tires and rims filled from someone on craigslist. He had them filled when he brought his bobcat in to get those tires filled. He said he got the rims from someone that used them as pulling rims. This is a product that I think it may be. http://www.americanindustrialtire.com/foamfilled.htm I've heard that you need to make sure that they know what they are doing. One guy I know said he had a set done and they had voids so the tires had flat spots. |
   
Jim Brown
Member Username: Jasbro2 GA
Registered: 3-2005 Post Number: 1003
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 8:41 am: |
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Thanks Guys JRL, We are going to put the 3 point hitch and front weight bracket from our 318 that is going to get restored one day on the 332 and it and the 317 will be plow day tractors and it might also get the hyd. tiller put on it to do a little tilling. |
   
John Johnson
Member Username: Lt230s NY
Registered: 9-2006 Post Number: 197
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 8:18 am: |
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Tom, 69 Patios didn't have a different type code than the green JDs so that it probably why it is listed that way. Jim, Love the 332! "Let the force be with you"!!! |
   
JRL
Member Username: Jlang
Registered: 1-2002 Post Number: 5089
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 7:39 am: |
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Jim Brown, Nice work on your 332! What are your plans for work for it now? |
   
Tom Sutton
Member Username: Iax475 Ia
Registered: 5-2006 Post Number: 214
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 4:51 am: |
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Paul Those are some good looking tires !! Tell me more about the "solid rubber filled". Procedure,weight, cost,etc. Thank You !! Tom Sutton |
   
Paul Lorentz
Member Username: Paulorentz MN
Registered: 3-2010 Post Number: 48
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 10:51 pm: |
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Tom Sutton- The rear tires on my 332 are Firestone Mud Hook XXtreme 26x12x12. The rims have 3" added to them to make them 12" wide rims. They are also filled with solid rubber. http://www.stopandgotires.com/model.asp?model=Mud+Hook+XXtreme
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Adam Vaught
Member Username: Adam_214 MO
Registered: 10-2009 Post Number: 287
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 10:41 pm: |
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Great work Jim! AWESOME 332! Adam |
   
Matt
Member Username: Harbertm IA
Registered: 12-2008 Post Number: 200
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 9:19 pm: |
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Duane, Awesome work! Quick question. What rear implement will you use on back that needs 4 ports? I really like the multi colored ports.. I bought them for the front of my 420 last winter and its genius! |
   
Tom Smith
Member Username: Tsmith1499 MD
Registered: 10-2009 Post Number: 9
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 8:47 pm: |
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Wondering if someone can answer this question. I just registered my tractor in the database and it automatically comes up with Green as the color. I am 99% sure this is an original 1969 patio tractor. Has anyone had a problem like this before? It is painted green right now, but you can see where the inside of the frame and other areas that were not accessible with a spray can couldn't get to when it was painted green. I know at least 2 JD mechanics who said this was fairly common back when they came out. People wanted green and yellow, not red, blue, yellow, etc. |
   
Mike Gault
Member Username: Mike Mo
Registered: 1-2005 Post Number: 1638
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 8:05 pm: |
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Jim - looks great, nice touch with the chrome grill.  |
   
Chris Neal (WFM Registry Police Chief)
Member Username: Smurfslayer Iowa (IA)
Registered: 1-2002 Post Number: 2750
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 6:09 pm: |
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Jim Brown - Very Very Nice!!! -Chris |
   
Jim Brown
Member Username: Jasbro2 GA
Registered: 3-2005 Post Number: 1000
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 6:00 pm: |
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Got the "Darth Va Deere" 332 finished today.
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Adam Vaught
Member Username: Adam_214 MO
Registered: 10-2009 Post Number: 286
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 5:55 pm: |
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Nice tractor and restoration Duane! Welcome to WFM. Adam |